Tris, I have worked in 3 coy’s that had that policy. Failed each time but it looks good on paper.Mgmt attitude is the workforce aren’t doing the job correctly.Pointed out that the machine is fully automated.Right we’ll get the engineers on it.Production higher mgmt then want to know why the machine isn’t running.But noone up top asked the intelligent question.I have come to the conclusion that mgmt exists merely to f#ck up.They do courses on it.
In that respect then, most managers are extremely efficient Ian.
Oh yes.I do not believe in the Peter principle.I think it is merely an excuse.
It is NOT just companies in the UK that suffer from this , look around and you will see many places where if something works it is kinda left to roll on regardless, oh they “plan” BUT there is little thought to actual marketing and upgrading looking at what others are doing and looking at cost/value.
Especially nowadays folk in all walks want to have value in anything they buy or anywhere they go.
GOOD VALUE does NOT always mean cheap, BUT a fair whack for a fair price. Sometimes it does not mean charging more OR lowering a price but giving a better experience of the product or service.
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I’ve been known to say to suppliers in the past “are you sure that the right price” as it looks too cheap
Suppliers need to make a profit too and when things go wrong (and they probably will at some time) they’re more likely to look favourably on you as the client if they haven’t been screwed into the ground on price.
Makes life easier all round IMOtris2014-01-27 16:13:16
Had an experience of “cheapest is not best” last year, crank position indicator on car gave up, bought cheap one off t’internet, Huangdong or similar, for £9, 2 months down the line it packed up, cost for garage to diagnose and fit correct Bosch item, £63, lesson learned.G.
The same old story…
Buy cheaply - then suffer!
E.g. bearings, I always buy from old, reputeable Companies, S.K.F. or Timken -
If doing ones homework, it should be possible to buy spareparts of known origin - cheapest, in the long run
Sorry keep forgetting, what is the device number?
It was a BU931Z. The plastic version is BU931ZP and is current and not expensive. Have fitted one of those instead and the bike runs O.K. for the moment. Time will tell.
Are you sure the metal version has the ‘Z’ suffix? Should be printed on the can. This means it has internal protection against back EMF pulse, if not (no ‘Z’ suffix) it DOES NOT, so back EMF MUST NOT exceed the maximum Vce. in such a case operating the ignition system without ALL spark plugs being properly connected is a MUST NEVER. Could be you were sold a metal case BU931 only. FYI the Lucas Rita AB11 uses BU941Z, however is unavailable BUT can buy BU941 (no ‘Z’) in metal case (TO3 package) from RS, OR the plastic versions which do have ‘Z’ suffix. When I made my AB11 copy last year using a proper BU941, had to have the non-Z version (metal TO3), so I added a 385V (peak [DC]) Voltage spike suppressor across the output plus a 10 nF cap to better ensure it is protected. Not necessary with the ‘Z’ version and the Rita AB11 schematic does not show any such protection. BU931Z & ZP datasheet:http://alltransistors.com/pdfview.php?doc=bu931z.pdf&dire=_inchange_semiconductor BU931 & P:http://pdf.datasheetcatalog.com/datasheet/stmicroelectronics/1004.pdf Note the difference between the internal schematics.
Mike H2014-01-31 12:34:54
That is entirely consistent with my last experience of “the ultimate riding machine.”
This is like the difference between Ford and VW. Ford have been doing cheap for years and know how to control it. VW have yet to gain expertise in the subject.
Yes I’m sure. The plastic version is the same internally and ends ZP. I used a line output transistor years ago to make an ignition system to fit a car.(40 years ago).
I can’t remember the number of course but they were about the only transistor then designed to withstand punch-through.petethebee2014-02-01 09:22:17
I did that too, Mullard (as was) BU208 I think. Rubbish gain though so needs massive amounts of bias. Re your tranny it occurred to me someone has got hold of BU931, which can be readily got, and rebranded them BU931Z which are obsolete so normally can’t get 'em. Does the printing on top of the can look kosher? Or a bit ‘too neat’… Good scam
That’s what I think. The printing isn’t identical but they went in the bin. Think I’ll tell ebay that I suspect they’re fake and see what happens.
As a recent ex BMW rider that quality is not European, they are not controlling the quality by paying top dollar. the fit and finish is not inline with the price charged to the customer, The dealer advised me to buy an aftermarket part from the USA as it would be a better fit than the OEM part.
When you think BMW cars NOW own Rolls Royce bet THAT QC is on the ball tho’
Saw the programme on Rolls a coiple of nights ago - they are not sacrificing quality in any way in building their cars
I thought it was the other way around, BMW bought Rolls Royce cars, Rolls Royce only make jet engines now. (?)