Now I am late to this party I know, I have just realised that my V85tt was not built in Mandello, feel a bit cheated I must say. Don’t much feel like getting my photo with bike at the red gates rather like a Liverpool fan getting a Photo at Old Trafford, makes no sense.
Any opinions welcome
2024 models are assembled at the Aprilia plant in Scorzè, “temporarily”.
Yes the factory rebuild must mean little or no production at Mandello for a while.
I do hope it is not a vanity project that burdens the company
Still feel robbed and very disappointed, I had no idea about it, it’s like a cornish pasty, not from Cornwall, Caerphilly cheese, not from Caerphilly, I have to say this might be terminal for me, I thought I was buying a piece of Mandello history but no, I bought a souvenir from a shop miles away, I really feel it that badly, my Mandello trip is now cancelled. I mean are they even handmade anymore, I feel conned and I really don’t like being conned, nowhere in the ads did it say, oh by the way, NOT made in Mandello, I consider it a fake TBH
I can understand your sentiment but in essence you’ve still got a Moto Guzzi with all the history and spirit built into it, still been designed and tested in Mandello. Nearly every motorcycle brand in the world are not built were they where originally, Hondas/triumphs/ bmw with the exception of ktm & royal Enfield they’re all made in Asia.
Just enjoy your bike for what it is a Moto Guzzi
I understand what you’re saying but I know about Triumph etc, I didn’t know about the Guzzi and TBH if I had it would have swayed my purchae decision. I just feel that I bought one thing but in fact, got another. I didn’t get what I thought I was getting .
I far as I understand it all moto Guzzi’s were built and will continue to be built in mandello however there’s a massive injection of investment to improve both the factory and visitor centre / museum which is very welcome having been to mandello myself. I guess if you really can’t get on with your tt85 then you’ll have to get an older model that was built in mandello or wait until the new factory comes on line
This isn’t the first time in history, mate. I did one trip to The Gate on old Guzzi(1980 by the V5), but with the “wrong” engine, and after 15 years I decided this had to be rectified - and rode there again last autumn, this time on the Guzzi where good half of it would feel much better in Varese, as all the front end and rear subframe is stolen and transplanted from old Cagiva:) But to the point: Never had “Guzzilogy” in hand, but heard small block initially wasn’t made behind The Gate - in De Tomaso’s times factory for this then new design was placed somewhere else. Anybody to confirm? Anyway, in your case mate the only way is to buy something real and ride there again:)) You don’t buy tradition cheap and easy!
Begs the question… Is one factory better at greasing the headsets than the other or do they both have the same problem?
Hi DB100, you can check where your motorcycle was assembled by deciding the VIN number. The eleventh digit indicates the assembly plant. M is for Mandello Del Lario. You’ll have to check if S is Scorze as suggested above. It is obviously worrying you, but in reality it is just where the motorcycle is assembled. The component parts come from all over Italy, and, for that matter, around the World. I have seen boxes in the assembly hall marked “Made in Vietnam”. It would be interesting to know where the latest Moto Guzzis are designed and tested. I wouldn’t be surprised if it is not in Mandello Del Lario. Just think, when you come to sell your V85TT you may be able to advertise it as a “Rare example, one of a small batch not assembled in Mandello”. Cheers Phil
Done and it wasn’t Mandello
I like your optimism but I just feel cheated, some might think it’s an overreaction but I don’t care where the parts come from, did it come out of that factory and those gates, no it didn’t. Nor was it ever disclosed in any ad that I saw or by any dealer, Made in Mandello Errr but no it’s not. I feel a CB1000GT coming on, I am Livid TBH
Feel for you. It must really nark you when you one sees Made in Mandello del Lario every time it starts up. Or did they replace that to Made in Italy ? Anyway a solution. Buy a Lodola - that was the last Guzzi designed by Carlo himself
When I found out my Triumph was ine of the very first built in Thailand when I thought it was built at Hinkley, I didn’t really care. When I found out my 1980 Guzzi V50 wasn’t made in Mandello, I didn’t really care. Its the same parts assembled in the same way no matter where its built.
I buy a motorbike to ride it and as long as it rides as expected, thats all that matters to me. If I found out tomorrow that my Yamaha had been built in North Korea, it wouldn’t change how it looks (it’ll still be ugly) or rides so I wouldn’t care.
Appreciate it doesn’t bother you, it does me quite a lot
Do you like how it rides? Surely that’s what matters.
I’d maybe understand your disappointment if it hadn’t been built in Italy. Essentially, its just been bolted together in exactly the same way, with exactly the same parts, just in a building not really that far away.
Don’t worry DB, they still won’t have used any grease 
still built in Italy, I think that’s good enough, not many bikes are made in Europe these days
Can’t imagine why you would think the CB is OK, when it’s Japanese, but styled in Italy? 
We all know that Guzzi has been under Piaggio’s ownership for 22 years, and it was owned by Aprilia before that, not to mention the De Tomaso years, and before that the SEIMM period. Despite production of various machines taking place at various plants other than Mandello, the plant on the lakeside has always remained the beating heart of the brand, and the place where owners have always congregated, irrespective of where their particular machine was assembled.
It’s a shame that you feel that way, but each to their own…..
I see where you are coming from. But I think you are getting worked up over nothing. It’s forward planning. They are still making some components at Mandello, just assembling them at Aprilia whilst the factory is finished.
Crack on buy a Japanese Honda made in Thailand with Chinese parts. 
At least the Guzzi is designed in Mandello and built in Italy. With the heritage that goes with it
I think you anre still entitled to park it outside the hallowed red gate.
alongside my Guzzi I have a triumph Tiger built in Thailand. I am ok with that because it’s a great bike and Triumph have good business sense. That’s how they are still going, when others have fallen by the wayside.