Starting problems V7 850 Stone.

Hi
I’m having a few problems starting my V7, press the button and get nothing,no click or flickering of lights, all lights on dash come on try to start several times then all of a sudden she will kick in and off we go, any body else had problems.
Cheers Tim

Hi, is this a new bike, or new to you? I have the V7 850 Special, I find I have to press and hold the starter button and wait, nothing happens for maybe a second or so, then it goes. I like to think it’s the ECU ‘thinking about it’.

You are also supposed to pull and hold the clutch lever, according to the instructions, but I think mine works without doing that anyway.

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Thanks for info, didn’t know about the cluch leaver thing and yes the bike is new bought in February, do you have any other recommendations that nobody mentioned ?
Have ridden other shaft drive bikes and they have all been a bit quirky, I don’t suppose you know how many miles to a tank of petrol or how many miles you can do once the petrol light comes on ?cheers Tim

PS we’re are you based?

Range is 210-240 miles depending on how you ride and E5 vs E10, with E5 being marginally better.

My light comes on at around 160 miles so I usually fill up 50 miles after that and can usually squeeze 17 and a bit litres in to brim it. So theoretically I get close to 240 miles from a tank.

Your trip is your fuel gauge, set the manual trip each time you fill up and you’ll soon know your range by looking at how much fuel you had left and that will guide you to how much further you dare go on the orange light.

When the light comes on it takes over the trip-d function and counts up so once you know when it comes on you’ll know what your orange light range is. It varies based on when your bike’s light comes on which seems to be a bit unique to each bike. You can always press the menu to see your manual trip counter to work out your range until you know your personal orange light range.

I don’t suppose you know how many miles to a tank of petrol or how many miles you can do once the petrol light comes on ?cheers Tim

Yep what ^Ramsaye said, the low fuel light is quite premature, and I’ve seen other discussions about this as well, I’m pretty sure when mine comes on it’s not quite used 3 gallons from full, which means there should be at least 1.5 gallons left. :astonished:
But as Ramsaye said, about 160 miles, or not too long after, as the ‘miles since fuel light came on’ display gets quite annoying, especially as it keeps replacing other things I want to show like trip count or the time! Mpg seems to be a fairly reliable 56 or so, and I’ve got a sidecar attached as well. I did wonder early on whether there is any mpg difference E10 vs E5, I did a couple of comparisons and it doesn’t seem to make any difference whatsoever to the mpg. Nor does it for performance, it seems to me to run exactly the same on both fuels.

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Probably the contact in the starter switch. Open up the switch housing and you can see the brass contact behind the button. Spray with contact cleaner and see if it sorts out your problem. I have had to do this on both the V7 750 and 850 .

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Hello, coming slightly late to this, I’m a v7 850 owner living in south London. I got the bike in Dec 21 and enjoyed it a lot last year, took it over the Alps to Mandello for the factory event (second time - gets better) and back by wiggly passes. Goes beautifully and is a much more rounded machine than the 17 reg 750 version I had before - though that was fun too.
I had this same starter switch problem early last summer, thought it was me and realised it wasn’t, got the shop to check and they replaced it, since when no problem. I think there must have been a duff batch. Slightly ‘Italian’ heritage, that, but nothing else about these modern Guzzis has been even slightly naff in my 20000 miles since 2017.
Def runs a touch more smoothly on the E5 - maybe ten more miles in the tank. I reckon to get to 200 miles before the warning light comes on though not, of course, if I’m crossing France or Italy at 80 to make time.

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My V7 Racer had the same problem, I discovered the starter bolts were slack so tightened them up…end of problem.

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The sound of silence struck my 2022 V7 850 Stone yesterday morning. Not too early and not damp. Took me ten minutes to get it to fire. I rode it for 90 miles and stopped for a cup of tea. Then another five or so minutes of holding the button in and twisting my thumb and eventualy it fired. I have called the dealer who says “bring it in and leave it here for up to ten days or so for MG to agree a warranty claim” . Well if they only clean the contacts a ten day wait for MG and then wait for the job to be done means the loss of the best riding time, given the poor weather we have been having. So the question is "What will the service department do to fix this problem? Is it a new improved part or just a clean and lubricate job?

Hi, ive have the same issue - just thought it was a Guzzi quirk, if i get inside the switch to clean it are there a bunch of springs and stuff which are likey to go flying across the garage?

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If you use the kill switch to stop the engine, don’t. Use the ignition or side stand down still in gear.

Get some contact cleaner (Halfords have loads) and spray generously under the kill switch button as best you can, flick the switch a lot and spray again. Hold a rag underneath to catch the drips.

I had this and solved by never using the kill switch and blasting the switchgear with contact cleaner as part of my monthly cleaning routine.

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I did this recently - 2 pozi screws under handlebar switch, remove, housing splits in half, nothing flies out, then you can soak everything in sight with switch cleaner. A wee bit of WD40 or similar wouldn’t be amiss, just to lubricate the moving bits. The mode button seems to be a microswtich (is what it sound like), the kill switch has sliding contacts I’m pretty sure, th start button is just 2 contact points pressed together, and a coil spring.

On mine the headlight flasher, on the left side, is what seems to cop it every winter (it’s on the front of the switch housing, so catches all the rain etc., damn stupid place to put it!) so it virtually seizes up, but again, gave ‘the treatment’ a month ago or so, OK again now, until next time!

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I bypassed the sidestand switch, by unplugging it and replacing with an identical plug with a simple wire loop. I don’t like that the sidestand switch has to be closed to enable, or allow riding, and that it’s underneath the bottom frame rail perfectly placed to catch all the spray and muck.
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I opened it up for look. The main problem I see it this: - the spring that holds the starter contacts apart is too long or the contacts are too small. Whichever it is when the button is pushed the spring become fully compressed before the contacts meet. Shove a little screwdriver in there and it starts straight away. So the fault is with the handlebar switch. I must assume that all 850V7s made with that batch are of will get the same problem. I can’t see any undue wear on the contacts nor is there any corrosion so I packed in some lube and reassembled it. The bike does start if I put a lot of pressure on the button. The warranty is valid until September so I’ll take it back around then.

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I had similar problem fixed by replacement under warranty two years ago. More recently comparable problem with turn indicator switch - fixed by regular application of WD-40.

That is not uninteresting! :slightly_smiling_face:

Thanks for that. The whole thing does not massively exude quality must be said.

^^ added to my notes for future reference (if necessary!)
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Morning all
Would this be the same fix for; Ignition light come on then when I press the start button just a click and all lights go off?
Bike is 2022 V7 special, had a few months now with no starter issue at all. Washed the bike last night, went to start and the above happened. Checked if water had got into fuses etc. Left it 15 minutes and it started But this morning same issue (didnt have time to wait as I had to get to work - so in the car :frowning: )
Regards
Jim

No not the same. No power outage with the previous. How did you wash bike? Not with a pressure washer I hope?
Sound quite like corroded connector so power not getting through. Just guessing tho.

I would not bypass the sidestand switch because I think it’s an MOT failure but mostly because I am rather too stupid to always rely on my memory to fold the side stand away before riding off.