Ok…I return to this thread as something still does not look right to me. I have got the spacer from a Mk3 Monza as that is clearly needed on the offside to keep the speedo drive in place. So all is good there. I have no fork leg meets brake disc nastiness also, this is good. The wheel can be spun without difficulty and nothing is rubbing or catching anywhere. The wheel spindle is through as far as it will go due to the ‘shoulder’ on the offside (nearside on Monza’s) yet not enough is coming through the nearside fork leg as the half nut does not screw down on the thread enough I think…see photos. As it stands working from the offside through to the nearside along the spindle it is as follows…fork leg, spacer, speedo drive, washer, bearing, spacer, bearing, spacer, fork leg, washer, spindle nut. Shouldn’t the spindle poke through the spindle nut more than it is doing?
Should poke out much more, provided the legs are not splayed out you either have the wrong spindle or there is an obstruction ( powder coat?) in the seat of the of side fork leg stopping it pulling though all the way
The speedo drive is on the wrong side, after looking at things here it should be on the same side as the nut.Grahame2013-10-26 16:20:19
I can see that the wheel is going to have to come out again and some filing to remove powdercoat if there is any left in the spindle holes. The wheel is on the correct way and the speedo drive is on the correct side also. So I now have a spacer keeping the speedo drive in place, albeit from a Mk3 Monza, the spindle cannot go through any further because of it. Before adding this spacer I did not have this problem…see earlier in the thread. It’s almost like I will have to reduce the size of this spacer to allow the spindle to go through the fork leg a little more, well up to its ‘shoulder’ anyway. This wheel business is driving me mad right now.
Don’t forget this is a Mk2…it is on the correct side.
Sorry I thought it is a MkIII, they changed the spindle round for the monza/III.
It’s a while since I had mine adrift, but doesn’t the speedo drive spacer go inside the housing and not next to the fork leg?
The parts book confirms this.
Just been out to the garage to have a quick look at mine and the spacer is showing about the same amount between fork leg and speedo drive.
Think about this. You have added an extra spacer on the spindle (from a different model), and now you complain that the spindle does not go through the NS fork leg so much as it did, and the nut is only half on. That is why they don’t fit a spacer on the Mk II. The shoulder on the spindle is it’s own spacer.
Brian UK2013-10-26 21:50:18
I’ve just read this thread again from the beginning and the wheel that you say is a from a Mk3 looks very much like a LM snowflake one rather than a smallblock wheel.
The wheel that’s on there now is the original Mk2 wheel…I have a ‘snowflake’ Mk3 wheel which was on the donor bike…not sure if it is slightly less wide. If it is then I am sure I would have problems lining up with discs etc.
Exactly, that is what I am saying. However, if there is no spacer fitted the speedo drive does not remain in position, which is why I have tried this Mk3 spacer to sort that problem. The shoulder on the spindle clearly cannot go completely through the fork leg to be the spacer that holds the speedo drive in place. My belief is that the shoulder prevents the spindle going to far through the fork leg and is not the ‘spacer’ to keep the speedo drive in place. I would like to keep the speedo drive, although as I am going to put an Acewell speedo on it I could possibly dispose of the speedo drive and use magnets…that would solve the problem wouldn’t it? I am open to any interpretation of what’s going on with this wheel nightmare
Yes, that is how mine is now except that I have put a Mk3 spacer between the fork leg and speedo drive. The speedo drive is up against the bearing not the fork leg.
Take the wheel out, and put the spindle back in the fork legs. You should be able to slide the spindle right through the RH leg. Can you?
The spindle should pass right through the RH leg? ok…I shall have to try this Brian, next weekend when I am next able to spend any time with the bike. If I can do this, does that mean that powdercoat (still!!) is the problem and that the spindle should go further in, allowing the shoulder to be the ‘spacer’?
On my V50 Mk3, The spindle goes in from the LHS, as you sit on the bike. There is a spacer that side. A wide one. On the other (r/h) side, as you sit on the bike, there is the the speedo drive, adjacent to the hub, then a small spacer atop that. As your V50 has the calipers at the front, try reversing the spacers. However…I am wondering if the whole problem will be solved, if you swap the complete leg assembly over, and have the calipers at the back.
You’re right Tim the Mk3 is reversed to the set up on mine but I don’t believe reversing my set up will solve it as it will just be replicated on the other side. And as Brian has pointed out, the Mk2 does not have a spacer in the position that I have now put one in. I am hoping that when I take it all apart again next weekend that some filing in the fork leg will clear any remaining powdercoat away, allowing the spindle to go deeper into the R/H fork leg, negating the need for a spacer at all. And if that doesn’t work, I have run out of ideas other than to dump the speedo drive entirely, which I really don’t want to do.
Take a step back … The number of spacers and speedo drive should not matter, you cannot move the lower legs more than a few mill either way, it’s the length or seating of the spindle that’s causing probs
Take it all apart so you just have the forks hanging from the yokes , slide the spindle through and check you get plenty of thread exposed so the nut fits with some exposed thread when hand tight
If you don’t get exposed thread then you have a powder coat problem or the wrong spindle
Please don’t confuse this situation by comparing with the Mk III, as the setup is very different.I have always been convinced that the spindle is binding in the RH fork leg, no other problem.