if it was me I would fit wheel without any spacers and see if you can line it up correct . Then add spacers it might just give you a chance to notice something you have missed
Still worth nippping-up the axle bolt, really tight, then releasing the pinch-bolts to let it centre-up.
The only spacer which will make any difference is the long one on the LHS, and unless there are two differing sizes on these, that can’t be wrong.And if you put a shorter one in there, then the RH disc would probably touch that fork leg. I don’t have any spacer washers on the caliper fittings on mine. Calipers are central to the discs too. I think the RH fork leg is binding on the spindle and has been pulled in towards the wheel a tad.
2 right .
They are just normal washers on the caliper mounts…about .75mm thick. Not true ‘spacers’.
Isn’t the RH slider binding on the disc?
Apologies if there is a multi-quote button…I can’t see how to do it. I have tried to re-centre it in the way that you mentioned with no success Brian…however, read on and I have made some progress.
Gave that a go as the pinch bolts weren’t actually tightened.
Not too sure about this as when mounting the calipers initially they were okay, it was simply the position of wheel/disc touching the fork leg.
The top yoke is from the original bike, the bottom yoke/stem is a replacement…and matched the original lower yoke. The forks seem aligned through the yokes fine.
As mentioned above, there are no washers on my caliper fittings either but can see how they could help me out if needed. Your last sentence Brian I think has partially hit the nail on the head. I had sanded down the inside of the offside fork leg spindle hole but it was still a bit of a tight fit which has probably pulled the fork leg in slightly.
I have tried this morning a Mk3 wheel that was on the front of the donor Mk2 V50 that has provided much of the parts for my bike. The previous owner of the donor bike said he had some problem with the brake discs clearing the forks after he purchased brand new discs and was advised to fit the Mk3 wheel. So, after I popped the Mk3 wheel in it slightly better than the Mk2 wheel. As the spindle was still barely proud on the offside fork, I gave it a few more ‘persuassions’ and it has gone in a little further. So, out came the Mk3 wheel, discs taken off and put back on the Mk2 wheel and that was put in. Again I gave the spindle some more taps and it clearly went further into the fork leg hole by a couple of mm giving me greater clearance between brake disc and fork leg. Problem solved by ensuring the spindle went through a little further. In this photo the rug can be seen in the increased gap now. However, with immense help from Keith I have had a look at a V50 Mk3 Monza. Although the fork legs are probably reversed and the spindle goes in from the other side, everything else is the same except that there is a 10mm tubular spacer between the offiside fork leg inner and the speedo drive on the Mk3 which seems to push the speedo drive up against the bearing. On my bike there is no spacer and the speedo drive just flops about. So it would seem then that the spindle needed to go further into the fork leg by a mm or two. And I ought to probably get a spacer to keep the speedo drive in place. Anyone have a link to where I might be able to get one from…have checked Gutsibits and can’t see anything, but will still drop them an email. Regards the torque setting…98 - 105 ft/lbs is an extreme amount that really tightens up the wheel so it is difficult to spin. This should not be the case should it? Thanks to everyone up to now for all their advice and help. This is simply the best forum I know of for this kind of help. Special thanks has to go to Keith for taking the time and trouble to pull the spindle out of the Monza for me and even offering to make up a spacer if I have trouble finding one. Top fella…many, many thanks Keith.
cafe racer2013-10-12 14:33:15
A-ha!! Powder-coat in’t spindle 'oles? I was right then slider was being pulled in
Mike H2013-10-12 14:48:46
Mike and Brian share 1st place
You must have a spacer next to the speedo drive. Try Reboot or MotoMecca, for it.
I don’t torque the spindle bolt, just do it up tight with a reasonable spanner.If it has been overtorqued in the past, it is possible that the central spacer has been crushed. The spindle should slide through the RH fork leg without having to tap it. Usual thing about greasing first of course. Whichbike did the spindle come from? Maybe the MkIII spindle needs the extra spacer and the MkII doesn’t.
Brian UK2013-10-12 16:31:10
Cheers…have dropped Pete at Reboot an email…hope he’s got one.
Both the spindles I have are exactly the same Brian. Looking at the Mk3 Monza today and comparing that to my gap between fork leg and speedo drive, I would be very surprised if the spacer didn’t just sit in that gap nicely. I will definately not be torquing the spindle nut up to the amounts stated in the manual…to be honest I am now quite sceptical about the manual…I shall just tighten to a reasonable tightness.
Hope that sorts it!
I may be sounding thick here, or stating the flippin’ obvious but spindle has a shoulder, i.e. is double-diameter ~ now on a big block like mine the shoulder forms a ‘spacer’ on the RH side and an actual sleeve forms the spacer on the smaller diameter LH end of the spindle. Washer and nut is then on LH outside. If nut pulls spindle up tight then RH ‘spacer’ (the spindle shouldered part) will place hub in correctly central position, but IF it sticks in the RH fork leg then it COULDN’T, left spacer would be loose, unless extra washers put in, then wheel will be offset to the right and disc binding on RH slider. If you follow me…